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Byron Allen Black's avatar

Now really it behooves me to remind our diligent - and potentially starving - readers that the human flesh which will be presented for breakfastlunch&dinner, suitably dressed and presented in a manner not too reminiscent of whence it originated, will be in a most modern condition, deeply seasoned with such Emulsifiers and Stabilizers as lecithin, xanthan gum, and carrageenan, Propylene Glycol, High-Fructose Corn Syrup – YUMMY remains! Plus double-good echoes of Monosodium Glutamate, aspartame, saccharin, sucralose, Sodium Nitrates & Nitrites, Benzoic Acid & Benzoates, Sulfites, such antioxidants as BHA (butylated hydroxyanisole) & BHT (butylated hydroxytoluene), not to mention such Emulsifiers and Stabilizers as lecithin, xanthan gum, carrageenan, Propylene Glycol and High-Fructose Corn Syrup – YUMMY remains, with a BONUS of colorful dyes to decorate cannibal tongue and teeth: Red 40, Yellow 5 & Blue 1. Now wait! There’s more! Appetizing cadavers may have residues of the ambient “mood enhancers” that infuse ~25% of the pop, easing daily stress and enhancing eternal happiness: Thorazine (chlorpromazine) ~ Trilafon (perphenazine) ~ Stelazine (trifluoperazine) ~ Serentil (mesoridazine) ~ Prolixin (fluphenazine) ~ Navane (thiothixene) ~ Moban (molindone) ~ Mellaril (thiofridazine) ~ Loxitane (loxapine) ~ Haldol (haloperidol) ~ Abilify (aripiprazole) ~ Clozaril (clozapine) ~ Geodon (ziprasidone) ~ Risperdal (risperidone) ~ Seroquel (quetiapine) ~ Zyprexa (olanzapine) ~ Celexa (citalopram) ~ Lexapro (escitalopram) ~ Luvox (fluvoxamine) ~ Paxil (paroxetine) ~ Prozac (fluoxetine) ~ Zoloft (sertraline) ~ Emsam (selegiline) ~ Marplan (isocarboxazid) ~ Nardil (phenelzine) ~ Parnate (tranylcypromine) ~ Anafranil (clomipramine) ~ Asendin (amoxapine) ~ Elavil (amitriptyline) ~ Norpramin (desipramine) ~ Pamelor (nortriptyline) ~ Sinequan (doxepin) ~ Surmontil (trimipramine) ~ Tofranil (imipramine) ~ Vivactil (protiptyline) Pristiq (desvenlafaxine) ~ Effexor (venlafaxine) ~ Cymbalta (duloxetine) ~ Ativan (lorazepam) ~ BuSpar (buspirone) ~ Inderal (propranolol) ~ Klonopin (clonazepam) ~ Librium (chlordiazepoxide) ~ Serax (oxazepam) ~ Tenormin (atenolol) ~ Tranxene (clorazepate) ~ Valium (diazepam) ~ Xanax (alprazolam) ~ Adderall (amphetamine and dextroamphetamine) ~ Dexedrine ~ (dextroamphetamine) ~ Ritalin (methylphenidate) Lamictal (lamotrigine) ~ Lithium ~ Bupropion ~ Tricyclics ~ Tetracyclics ~ Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors ~ Clonazepam ~ Lisdexamfetamine ~ Dimesylate ~ Tramadol (sorry if this list is not up-to-date but the chemists are such busy busy bees!) “Enjoy!” as the waiter enjoins (do cannibals need waiters?)

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Humans make for a toxic meal - I can imagine the women growing cocks and the men's boobs after a few meals of human flesh!!!

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Byron Allen Black's avatar

Honestly. Did you hear of the panic in Puerto Rico, where male children aged around 7 were showing signs of growing female breasts? Authorities traced it to an excess of Estrogen in all the chicken the locals were wolfing down.

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Hubbs's avatar

We are burning the candle of food, energy, and natural resources at BOTH ends through BOTH Debt and Depletion. Break it down.

A highly complex, industrialized civilization requires specialization. A person can't be an expert in everything, so this requires cooperation which means there is a need for trade. Trade requires a form of money, true money as in a medium of exchange and a store of value.

If money is printed through issuance of unpayable debt, it is no longer perceived as a store of value, so then it loses its function as a medium of exchange.

Trade, the lifeblood of a highly specialized industrialized civilization, seizes up- even if there are enough workers, raw materials, and affordable energy (oil).

The problem is we are approaching the end of easy to access energy, we have depleted the top soil for food production so now farm land is simply a planting surface that now requires water, herbicides, fertilizers, insecticides to grow the food. And then more fuel to harvest it, transport it, process it and distribute it.

So debt cresendos until credit and money required to sustain trade collapses in a panic, and then in turn the vulnerable industrialized system shuts down and stops producing food and energy.

"Well be fighting in the streets with our children at our feet from the Who's song " Won't Get Fooled Again."

Except that this song premises that we will all live to deal with the "new boss which is same as the old boss."

But if we're all dead, we won't be alive to have to face the new boss anyway.

My daugher actually made me watch the Hunger Games, at least the first episode. The thing that impressed me was the beginning of the scamble where all the 10 or 12 teams surrounded the central suppy hub and at the sound of the buzzer all rushed to try to capture as many supplies they thought they would need to compete against the other groups. In the mad rush, many got killed on the spot. Others adopted a different strategy of deciding to do without and disperse from the carnage to fight later in isolated encounters.

Metaphorically, if I remember correctly, it was the simple weapon, the bow and arrow, that was most effective in the end.

And then there is the Walking Dead series. My impression was that the "Zombies" were just a vehicle to write a story about how individuals and groups would fare in a survialist situation where supplies, food, energy, weapons etc were in short supply. The writers could have just as easily used an alien invasion as the backdrop. This was really a story of how competing survivalist gangs turned on each other.

But this whole prepper movement is a scam like evrything else. All the advertisments about collagen to reduce wrinkles, all different kinds of scams promoting coconut oil, flashlights, ionic air purifiers, "bug out bags," foot pumps, back braces, poop accelerators, weight loss systems, etc. Everyone is trying to sell you something.

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Barry Carter's avatar

The hunger games is just a dystopian piece of fantasy sci-fi, along with books and films like Stephen King’s “The Stand”, Cormac McCarthy‘s “The Road” or the film of the series “Mad Max: Fury Road”. If you really want to peer into the abyss to see what is likely to happen then read Kurt Dahl’s book (which he dedicates to Jack Alpert, he of “Civilization's “Running Out of Gas” Story”) the book’s title’s “An American Famine - (subtitle) A Rosetta Stone for the coming collapse”. The book’s opening quote by Thomas Hobbes is one that shouldn’t be forgotten in a hurry “Hell is the truth seen too late”. Be warned this book pulls no punches and is very haunting, sufficient to pull the reader back to reading the story again and again. To quote from the books cover “An American Famine combines the realism of our most knowledgeable pundits on sustainability along with a vivid fictional descent into chaos and anarchy. It is a dark and potent thriller, a can’t-put-it-down read, at the same time fascinating, educational, and terrifyingly real. It is a Rosetta Stone for those people who are concerned about our future but are unsure about the outcome — it translates their vague fears about the coming decades into a clear picture of the dark and dangerous days ahead.”. It’s a book to wake people up, not one to read at bedtime🤔

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Stegiel's avatar

I am a student of Collapse. Vivid scenario's including muddle through present. Overall collapse is local. Then the downstream effects. Our machines fare no better than Roman entrails in future prediction.

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Barry Carter's avatar

Collapse and Cannibalism. There’s little in the essay to describe the numerous ways civilised people surrounded by modernity can rapidly descend into bestiality to the point they cannibalise their fellow human beings. Excuse the pun but let’s put a little meat on the bones. I’m sure Eddy, and followers of yours have heard of Jack Alpert and his “Civilization's “Running Out of Gas” Story”, Jack focused on the events leading up to humanity’s demise from a population of 8+ Billion to one of 600 Million, what he left out was any detail of what those humans are most likely to have done in those intervening years. For that you need to read Kurt Dahl’s book (which he dedicates to Jack Alpert) the book’s title’s “An American Famine - (subtitle) A Rosetta Stone for the coming collapse”. The book’s opening quote by Thomas Hobbes is one that shouldn’t be forgotten in a hurry “Hell is the truth seen too late”. If it’s bestiality and cannibalism you’re looking for be warned this book pulls no punches and is very haunting, sufficient to pull the reader back to reading the story again and again. To quote from the books cover “An American Famine combines the realism of our most knowledgeable pundits on sustainability along with a vivid fictional descent into chaos and anarchy. It is a dark and potent thriller, a can’t-put-it-down read, at the same time fascinating, educational, and terrifyingly real. It is a Rosetta Stone for those people who are concerned about our future but are unsure about the outcome — it translates their vague fears about the coming decades into a clear picture of the dark and dangerous days ahead. It’s a book to wake people up, but not one to read at bedtime🤔

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Fast Eddy's avatar

If they do not mention the spent fuel ponds... then they should be ignored.

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Barry Carter's avatar

Sometimes Fast Eddy it’s not what’s left out, although it might not be, it’s what’s left in. Kurt Dahl’s “An American Famine”, remember Thomas Hobbes “Hell is the truth seen too late”. Doubt spent fuel ponds or run away melting down nuclear power plants would be of that much concern, as they tend to be isolated from large parts of the community. What would be of more concern compared to all the other effects of industrial civilisation collapsing and societal breakdown, would be where’s the next meal to come from, who’s the most devious and has the most guns and ammunition, and where might the worst of a supermax/high security prison’s convicts have gone as all domestic animals have been eaten, along with the easy to kill wildlife, and what’s left has died and putrefied leaving (sorry, no fantasy zombies) just a human eat human world to survive😱🤔

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The Atavist's avatar

I think i'd run my long pork through an actual hog first, convert it to real pork.

I asked a cattle/bison rancher bud once if, when things get really tight, he would eat another person. "In a heartbeat" he said with zero hesitation. He'd clearly already covered that ground in his head.

However many more like him are there out there i wonder?

What's to be done? I think of facing the Comanche, here. For heaven's sake hang on to the last bullet.

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Lastcall's avatar

You need a theme song; here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WlbQRoz3o4

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TriTorch's avatar

Hey buddy, just some food for thought about those population figures:

There is overwhelming evidence to suggest that the global population numbers are nothing but lies, deception, and fabrications. It is highly unlikely that there are 8 billion people on this planet, in fact, the UN census numbers are ludicrous: https://bitchute.com/video/Q0KHQdiHkXcC [6:17mins]

According to the UN India has 1.4 billion people. The top 300 cities have a combined population of 200 million, that leaves 1.2 billion scattered around the rest of the countryside?

More likely: The eight billion figure is merely yet another cage, making us think that population is a problem in order to get us to funnel the remainder of our freedoms, wealth, property, & happiness to the top .001%.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

The good thing is that I keep a spare room in my basement where I lock up the mentally ill followers... you'll need to share a bed with The Gimp.

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TriTorch's avatar

Soooo.... you didn't watch the video?

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Let's pretend the tooth fairy is real... https://youtu.be/fQcgxmqFaFs

Now you know how I feel...

We could also pretend that Trump was actually shot (even though his badly damaged ear healed within two weeks with no scarring).

We can pretend the Covid Vaccines are Safe and Effective...

We can pretend cnnbbc do not lie

We could present Global Warming is real....

There are so many things we could pretend....

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TriTorch's avatar

Yep, we could even pretend the population numbers are real.

No way they’d have ANYTHING to gain from a small lie like that.

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Yd25's avatar

irrelevant.

axiom. food comes from X.

ask X producers.

they say decline.

products from industrial materials.

look Y plants like coal.

shutting down.

conclusion. death of millions and billions into future world.

exact numbers are irrelevant.

soil degradation is real too. doesn't matter freedoms wealth property happiness are because u are part of the retarded 1% of the world whilst 90% of low iq humans live in squalor.

no food means death. simple as that. whether it requires energy or whatnot is irrelevant. doesn't matter if its 5 billion or 10 billion brother.

why don't you go to india and then ask if water depletion is a fake issue

also simple logic tells you if there was enough to go around, no need for imf loans to divert resources to western world, and there wouldn't be excessive deaths instead of pop control policies in africa

also i know you are retarded because we had same issues in past

ran out of trees,

whale oil, etc

cusp of extinction until we got lucky and found more resources.

that doesn't mean there is infinite differing types of resources that are more energetically dense and easily accessible.

humans were always at maximum capacity for dynamic environments. if they weren't they would live a higher standard of living... for a very long time. just like roman empire and entropy and cutting of silver 1/100 shards at a time. you cant outrun soil degradation and mineral depletion. geological processes do not happen fast enough for N size populations

your video is retarded.

blaming ''on'' overpopulation.

ok go live in INDIA....

do you know why ZIMBZAWEAFRICANO countries get the brunt of western sanctions and interventions?

because we use their fucking minerals and materials you dumb fucking shit.

if they explode the population we don't get to use them. and the flow of resources grind to a halt in isles and ports. go look at NSSM 2000. ask why france gets uranium discounts. poor people are low IQ we don't give resources to low IQ unless you want to swap places with middle east and tell me whether you think its better to divert the world resources to there.

again IT DOESNT MATTER IF ITS 200 MILLION OR 1.2 BILLION.

IF RESOURCES ARE IN DECLINE AND NOT REGENERATING (LOW ECOE), ESPECIALLY THE THING THAT MAKES FOOD. YOU ARE FUCKED. WHAT DONT' YOU GET OR THE THING THAT TRANSPORTS FOOD holy shit

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Yd25's avatar

heres another comment

The india thing takes one second to understand. India isn’t like the western world in terms of rural/urban population distribution. More than 65% of Indians DO live in rural communities. The answer to the question you asked is YES, they ARE scattered around the countryside. Mostly in abject poverty, and living at a subsistence level.

In general that ratio of rural to urban can be seen in the majority of the developing nation on earth. The entire notion that “adding up cities” should add up to the bulk of a population makes no sense, given that context. The idea that “most people live in cities” is brand new in history and is a very western point of view.

Even in the west, here in the US and in Western Europe, the vast majority of people lived in rural communities until very recently in history. Cities have only become the center of social life in the US within the past 100 years. Before that we were a proudly rural nation. India has about 660,000 villages that ranges between thousands to hundreds of inhabitants. To say this is statistically improbable that many people don't live outside the 300 largest cities is delusional. Indian here. You're assumptions are heavily flawed. You can't just assume population density in India. It differs region to region and isn't uniformly spread. But let me talk about myself. Acc to my Family tree web page, My Grandfather has 75 descendants ( out of which 15 are deceased) and I have a total of 319 (274 currently Alive) relatives across both maternal and paternal sides. My brothers wedding had a guestlist of 1000 individuals out of which around 300 are just the 'Groom's Side'. And we are from a tiny rural village in southern India. Rural areas are more populated than cities as per density. Using the top populated cities as a reference and then assuming the population of smaller towns can not apply here. For example, A village in Uttar pradesh may have 20 times more population than mine.

A. Population is misrepresented by 20-50%.. Irrelevant. Resources not matched to population size.

B. Population size is probably accurate within 10-15% of estimates, countered by empirical claims of those living within those areas and simple calculations.

C. You can see the rising costs of living and car jams with infinite replaceable humans, especially in China. Proof that human value is so little because of so much population. Even if it was negative population growth, the numbers are still too large to live comfortably relative to resources available per capita.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Back in the day when I lived in Hong Kong ... I used to live in a serviced apartment in Causeway Bay.... right out from of my door was one of the busiest pedestrian intersections on the planet...

https://a.cdn-hotels.com/gdcs/production187/d29/8bd936d9-fa23-4cfe-9ae4-a209b916913d.jpg

On a Saturday morning I'd hit the gym.... around 10am ... then afterwards I'd hang out at that intersection ... and play Spot the Hotties... as they crossed... I'd bide my time waiting for a good target ... then saddle up and initiate a chat... with the goal of getting a number and pursuing a future Action Adventure.

The thing is ... the deal flow was enormous... literally thousands would cross that intersection over the course of a few hours on a Saturday or Sunday ... yes overpopulation is a HUGE problem

But it comes with benefits... there can never be too many hotties... never

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Fast Eddy's avatar

also i know you are retarded because we had same issues in past

You get today's Gold Medal!!!!

That fellas line of thinking .. is Re Tarded... but to some extent the barnyard animals will come up with some sort of nonsense to allow them to believe we are not fucked... (Mars colonies anyone)... and most think we should have democracy...

Can you imagine the disaster that would be... hahaha

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Steven Work's avatar

I've heard that all the population of the world could live in Texas if it were all one big suburb .. of course, only in space - water, fuel, electric, and other services would be [nearly] impossible.

If so, image how the Zionist and OWG Globalists could mass kill us all with nukes or endless bombing, us in are 15-minute concentration cities, we would all be Palestinians then as we are now.

So, no need to wait for all those Jabbies to die from cancer, bombed down to 500,000 world population as their goal is.

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Olde Edo's avatar

I watched the video, and it seems compelling.

Also, several years back, I watched a TED Talk by an official at the U.N. department that tracks demographics and population data. She stated that nearly every region on Earth is experiencing reduced population growth, except Africa (maybe also India). She gave as a specific example traditionally high birthrate Bangladesh, which more recently has shown considerable reduction in birthrate because improvements in health care have resulted in more infants surviving and reaching maturity, removing the strong impetus to conceive frequently.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

It does not matter if the population numbers are exact... even if it is 4B instead of 8B... we are alive cuz of OIL and GAS.... we are eating them...

And they are in deep depletion.

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Olde Edo's avatar

Agreed on that, but again, it is hard to get good figures on global depletion. A huge undersea oil field exists between Japan & S. Korea within Japanese territory, which has not been touched yet. Hubbert's peak calculations were roughly on track in the U.S., but discovery of new sources could boost production. But generally, I agree that this is a major problem that should be the focus of gov't attention everywhere. (Also, the BitChute video's creator turns out to be a huge "flat Earth" partisan, which kind of casts a pall over his judgment in general...)

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Agreed on that, but again, it is hard to get good figures on global depletion. A huge undersea oil field exists between Japan & S. Korea within Japanese territory, which has not been touched yet.

Evidence please.

The thing is ... there is plenty of oil and gas remaining ... the problem is that it is too expensive to extract and produce.... as we are seeing in the EU and UK expensive energy destroys economies

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Fast Eddy's avatar

You need to ask why we are steaming oil out of sand if there are giant fields of easy stuff waiting to be extracted.

And fracking ... and drilling miles beneath the sea

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John's avatar

Who knows. The UK Office of National Statistics was shown to be lying in 2021 & 22. Given the historically high level of trust in this body, it makes one doubt all official statistics.

Apparently on the basis of supermarket food sales UK population could be more than the official 65 million. The figure in many other countries may be less than we're told.

Look up the weight of domestic livestock though and compare to that of wild animals. That alone is worrying even if world population is less than 8 bn.

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Steven Work's avatar

I once calculated the world-wide est. number of mothers that hired Witches to torture our babies, sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, uncles, .., would been lifetime friends and lovers, tortured by ripping legs and gutting bellies while silently screaming, on mothers whimsical VagFeelies of 3+ billion since I was born until some 15 years ago.

Perhaps the reported world population numbers include those 3+ billion of father's children then couldn't protect because they didn't know, or State forced him from interfering with the mother's murderous whims.

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Rockandrollrabbit's avatar

What the fuck are you talking about?

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Steven Work's avatar

What is not clear too you? Over 3 billions of unborn murdered since my Adulthood world-wide.

AI created audio overview of article below;

https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/b1015d63-8c29-44b1-8080-8a6a5efce59f/audio

Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2216:, 2nd June 2025, AI Dialog, Best argument against acceptance of Abortion or any evil insanity.

-- A Journal across Realities, Time, Space, Soul-States.--

https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2216

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Gary’S's avatar

What Is To Be Done?

If I was an individual member of a small group of people who are convinced that they run the entire world, the same way a major multinational corporation is run, and my deep state experts/technocrats made me aware that the global economy was soon to collapse, due to severe depletion of affordable energy; would I choose to deliberately mass murder the entire population of the world or would I choose to do nothing? I’d ask my (so-called) “deep state experts” about past planet-wide natural catastrophes that caused the human population to crash. I’d realize that it was psychopathic behavior that allowed me to become one of the rulers of the world and I wanted to make a major change in my life away from psychopathy. I’d realize that psychopaths embrace utilitarian behavior. I’d realize that (so-called) “control” is an illusion. I’d take my hands off the steering wheel and allow nature to take its course.

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Gary’S's avatar

Given that economic contraction is inevitable, the real question (it seems to me) is if the production of raw materials for energy and food production & consumption will decline precipitously or gradually. Maybe asking this question qualifies me as “mentally ill”.

“I'll take crazy over stupid any day.” — Joss Whedon

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Fast Eddy's avatar

It declines gradually - until it snaps.... then we go from tech society to a dead dark carcass... overnight ... literally overnight https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/financial-system-supply-chain-cross

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Gary’S's avatar

As you wrote in the provided link “Once a major system collapse occurs; scale, hysteresis, entropy, loss of critical functions, recursion failure, and resource diversion is likely to ensure that the features associated with the previous dynamic state of the globalised economy can never be recovered.” The previous version of the globalized economy is transformed. Just not in the “golden age” manner that’s being touted by the hopium addicts.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

It's hard to imagine given our normalcy bias...

But let's try... imagine that the UK tried to sell an issuance of gilts at whatever the interest rate is now ... and there were no takers.... the markets would get a bit nervous but they'd probably not crash...

The UK reloads and applies a high interest rate to the bonds hoping that this juicy bait attracts buyers... still no subscribers... cuz the buyers believe they are not getting paid back -- so they won't buy and take on this risk no matter what rate the UK offers...

Essentially the UK is fucked. It's government and economy cannot function if nobody will loan them money.

As soon as the markets realize this every trader with exposure to the UK hits SELL!!!! All hell breaks loose as we now have a Lehman on Steroids situation ... too big too bail...

The global financial system would immediately seize up due to counter party risks to the imploding UK economy. Because The City is a major player ... this becomes a massive global crisis.

Supply chains will halt as suppliers don't know if their customers will pay them. They do not trust letters of credit.

Spare parts for everything from the power grid to transport trailers do not arrive ... and being a Just in Time world... everything grinds to a halt. Food does not get delivered... petrol and diesel are no longer available...

I would imagine that within hours there would be no electricity. And the grocery stores would be emptied very quickly.

Imagine that this happened NOW! Right now. Mid sentence... the power goes off... my laptop is running off of the battery and it's afternoon... hmmm... I check the router... lights are off... hmmm... I flick a light switch ... no power... I try to call the utility company ... no phone signal... I am not overly worried yet... surely it will come back on...

After waiting a few hours... dusk arrives... still no power... I walk around the block ... darkness everywhere... silent.... a few cars pass by but people are in their homes...

I return home... and go to bed assuming normalcy will return in the morning...

But it doesn't ... how long would it take before panic kicked in ... how do you even buy the remaining food from the shops when the tills do not operate... how soon before people fill up trolleys - are unable to pay and just walk out?

Even if petrol stations have fuel - how do you pump it out of the tank without electricity...

Nothing would function ... all our tech gadgets would be useless. We'd go from the tech age to the stone age within hours. Without a clue as to how to survive.

The barnyard animals would realize we ain't going back to normal and they'd panic... I reckon within a day or two of global darkness... the worst elements would understand there are no longer consequences... and it would get very nasty:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre

The falcon cannot hear the falconer;

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere

The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

The best lack all conviction, while the worst

Are full of passionate intensity.

The cannibalism would kick off within a week or two... as soon as they have killed and eaten all the dogs and cats and rats....

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Gary’S's avatar

I cannot make a reasonable case — based on critical analytical thinking skills, arguably the highest application of logic — against humanity going from “a tech society to a dead dark carcass” extremely quickly. And it’s not like there’s plenty of time to decommission nuclear power plants and safely dispose of the spent radioactive fuel rods. Given MY normalcy bias, it’s quite challenging to imagine a human population crash leading to a human extinction level event. Even prophets from thousands of years ago warned against the sudden destruction coming upon the people whose attitude is “All is well”.

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Steven Work's avatar

Okay, now do the USA Petradollar once Iran makes good on the threat if attacked by USA collapsing-goal seeking Zionist israel and-or USA they will destroy every oil production, storage, transportation port and ship within missile range.

How soon before Fed. is liquidating every public resource that private Zionist want to buy at pennies on dollar to service the interest on National Debt? How long before banks sell-off mortgages that then are 'Called in' and homes and other property grabbed when 'owners' cannot pay the full loan? Will the USA military be used to take repossessed properties?

What is the chance this plan is in the work, we Debt-Raped like Greece was in 2009 when their private Zionist bank debt was purchased by Zionist supporting EU, making their Debt Public and requiring bankruptcy and liquidation?

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Yd25's avatar

steven stuff without resources is a liability......

if people cannot afford to service payments then it means there are not sufficient resources to keep the home heated and maintained and the true value of those properties or loans are zero. why would usa military be used to take properties.. if anything it would be a controlled demolition of certain zones having resources if there was a contingency plan for unwinding down and rest is free for all death but if the eddy scenario happens well that is it. elites go hide in bunkers in islands for a few years at best

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Withnail's avatar

Or imagine a house without a reliable food supply. You just couldn't live there.

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Olde Edo's avatar

Primitive countries will have an easier time of it, I suppose, as they have often within living memory passed through famines etc. During travels in Cambodia, my guide told me how he (as a young boy) and his few surviving relatives made it through the Pol Pot era living on termites and ants and whatever fruit etc they could find. I sampled the red ants he ate (they form small nests by folding over and pasting shut tree leaves), and they were actually spicy and not bad. My guide was not enthusiastic about tearing into a termite mound just to let me taste them, but nutritionwise, apparently not so bad.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I lived in Bali for 8 years -- surrounded by rice farmers... every last one of them used petro chemical fertilizers... to grow their crops.

There will be absolutely nothing to eat.. even the termites and rats will be consumed... and you cannot grow shit in land that has been farmed with chemicals...

There are 4000 Spent Fuel Ponds Around the Globe…

If you don’t cool the spent fuel, the temperature will rise and there may be a swift chain reaction that leads to spontaneous combustion–an explosion and fire of the spent fuel assemblies. Such a scenario would emit radioactive particles into the atmosphere. Pick your poison. Fresh fuel is hotter and more radioactive, but is only one fuel assembly. A pool of spent fuel will have dozens of assemblies.

One report from Sankei News said that there are over 700 fuel assemblies stored in one pool at Fukushima. If they all caught fire, radioactive particles—including those lasting for as long as a decade—would be released into the air and eventually contaminate the land or, worse, be inhaled by people. “To me, the spent fuel is scarier. All those spent fuel assemblies are still extremely radioactive,” Dalnoki-Veress says.

It has been known for more than two decades that, in case of a loss of water in the pool, convective air cooling would be relatively ineffective in such a “dense-packed” pool. Spent fuel recently discharged from a reactor could heat up relatively rapidly to temperatures at which the zircaloy fuel cladding could catch fire and the fuel’s volatile fission product, including 30-year half-life Cs, would be released. The fire could well spread to older spent fuel. The long-term land-contamination consequences of such an event could be significantly worse than those from Chernobyl. Source

Japan’s chief cabinet secretary called it “the devil’s scenario.” Two weeks after the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami devastated the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, causing three nuclear reactors to melt down and release radioactive plumes, officials were bracing for even worse. They feared that spent fuel stored in pools in the reactor halls would catch fire and send radioactive smoke across a much wider swath of eastern Japan, including Tokyo. Source

Estimates of the cancer burden in Europe from radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl accident Source (Note: The Chernobyl accident was relatively minor, involved no spent fuel ponds, and was controlled by pouring cement onto the reactor. This was breaking down so a few years back they re-entombed.)

“However, many of the radioactive elements in spent fuel have long half-lives. For example, plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years, and plutonium-240 has a half-life of 6,800 years. Because it contains these long half-lived radioactive elements, spent fuel must be isolated and controlled for thousands of years.” Source

It does not matter how remote you are, the jet stream and ocean currents will circulate these toxic cancer-causing substances around the globe. They will be picked up by convection and pour deadly rain on your crop and water supply.

Nobody survives the collapse of civilization. This will be an extinction event.

https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/the-utter-futility-of-doomsday-prepping

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Steven Work's avatar

It is a sorry situation that the concept of mixing spent fuel with the proper amount of dampening material was never fully worked out or if it was, not implemented. Low temperature reactors that require not active rod-adjustments or cooling water that was not part of the closed system. Small spent fuel electric generator system could be buried deep of incased in concrete and generate power for a few neighborhoods - if memory serves from that proposal I read.

I could see everyone chipping in something to cover cost and installation, say $10,000 a home, with yearly $500 fee for inspection and servicing - if needed, and electrical power for a lifetime.

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Gary’S's avatar

The global economic and financial systems that have been forced upon the commoners by the rulers — those rulers who the author Daniel Quinn calls “the Takers” — are extremely short-sighted, are exclusively focused on short-term profit-taking, are all about exploiting the commons & the commoners, are rapacious & domineering (aggressively coercive) & acquisitive & expansionist. The Takers seem hell-bent on causing a human mass extinction level event. There WERE alternatives, even for better managing the earth’s finite supply of easy-and-cheaply-to-produce fuel stocks. And then there’s this: https://youtu.be/-ZRwlYtAMps?si=gLCt5E1jLcVvoR3B

A fairy tale? Complete bovine feces?

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Olde Edo's avatar

I was thinking more of Sentinel Island or the New Guinea highlands, etc. but radioactive dust is a different matter...

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Gary’S's avatar

I don’t want to agree with this scenario, but I can’t find fault with it.

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Withnail's avatar

Once the killing starts, it isn't going to stop.

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Gary’S's avatar

Maybe the Northern Hemisphere will turn into a cemetery, while the Global South will have a chance.

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Olde Edo's avatar

Yeah, I lived through the Fukushima event, 255 kilometers away in Tokyo. Flowers in my back yard mutated into bizarre shapes with random petal counts that spring season. The Japanese gov't ended up passing a state secrets act that threatened journalists attempting to publish the truth about the situation. One plausible explanation for the magnitude of the destruction is that Japan may have been hiding A-bomb quality plutonium in the reactor cores even though the facility was not designed for it. The J. gov't is marginally less corrupt than the U.S. gov't, probably because the politicians have less imagination. They were given a foolproof plan for containing the radioactive water by mixing it into concrete to build a forever storage facility for the melted down "elephant's foot" core (if ever recovered), but the idiots would have nothing of it and insisted on just dumping the water into the ocean (ongoing). But I digress... I think we could somehow survive most situations if it were not for the absolutely incompetent, narcissist politician fools completely undermining any reasonable preparation plans.

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Barry Carter's avatar

I think Olde Edo, you’ve a vivid imagination, and probably open to conspiracy theories, a follower of MAGA maybe? Anyways, If you want to know what happened after the event to the people who were evacuated from the affected zones around the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, and the environmental damage done afterwards, then you couldn’t do better than to read William T. Vollmann’s “No Immediate Danger - Volume One of Carbon Ideologies”. “To investigate, Vollmann recounts multiple visits he made, at significant personal risk, to the contaminated no-go zones and sad ghost towns of Fukushima after the 2011 tsunami and reactor meltdowns, measuring radiation and interviewing tsunami victims, nuclear evacuees, anti-nuclear organisers, and pro-nuclear utility workers.”🤔

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Gary’S's avatar

It’s extremely challenging for me to fully comprehend.

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Never Forget's avatar

Pushing peak oil again. Green scam is over so revert to that old chest nut?

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Oh look.. a RE Tard... what shall we do with the RE Tard?

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@realityfoghornn's avatar

If only my siblings had approved of my aroma….I could have been put out of my misery at any festive Yule celebration….

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@realityfoghornn's avatar

You ARE fast..Eddie!

But not as fast as the knnts who track me with their punitive malevolence…

To be given a one hour detailed search after spending five intense days, escaping to the other side of the planet, as a very exhausted and multiple-disabled TI, ….

I just know that my identity is on Satan’s menu for slow and excruciating, suffocation.

If only the denizens of the dark, would expose themselves, manfully from behind their Menoras which they depend on to light their ‘passage’ to where they incarcerate our poor children.

And I will gladly endure a MI, whilst I casually grasp their over-used windpipes, watching, gleefully as their gaze of sheer surprise morphs gently into the horror of what I am visiting on them.

Amen

You Knutts…!

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I recommend arming yourself with a shotgun ... pepper spray ... a few crosses... and a sack of stakes and a hammer!!!

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@realityfoghornn's avatar

Or perhaps, just some circumspection…..

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I really like the idea of fire

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