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Hubbs's avatar

Replicates my anger with these "computers" and the idots that design the software and programs. Ever try using Electronic Hospital Records (EHR) or Electronic Medical Records (EMR)? I did during the last few years of practice and it's amazing i didn;t smash the computer. It mad my life hell. Other colleagues agreed.

The problem is that the programmers have no fucking clue how a doctor who is in a clinic needs to a program to run. The programs are designed for what the geeks need to design a software program, just like getting an erector set and just connecting all the pieces into a nonsensical pile of junk.

Basically, they don't know the sequence a doctor would need a computer to perform, so they throw in all the options and the kitchen sink in at every step, "just in case they missed something" so that you are presented with an information overload at every step. The thing that is missing is logic and intelligence.

When I sign in, I would like to start out giving my name, and the list of scheduled patients ONLY. On the next screen, I would select a single patient from the list. Then on the next screen, his medical history and then on the next screen any labs or studies. Don't throw in all the other junk on every screen at every step. Require every programmer to pass a screening/qualifying test to demonstrate his ability in human logic and its application for the niche task. But we don't do that. We have geeks.

And as it applies to cell phones, no wonder the kids are so dumb. They waste all their time learning how to operate their cell phones and not engaging in true problem solving or critical thinking.

It's like the rat that is placed in the maze who has to learn the path to get to the end to collect his cheese reward. Just mindless memory of knowing which way to go at every turn to get a reward, or for humans which key to press and what sequence.

In the same way, think of typing keys on your computer or your cell phone as a series of decisions

the rat makes in a maze. Your reward is the screen or the web site or if you're really brain dead, the videogame. You are the rat! Or those people who can type quickly, you are like the chicken looking to eat seeds and bugs on the ground pecking at your keyboard.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

The AI thing is quickly gaining on the Climate Change thing ... https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/the-three-pillars-of-bullshit

And the moon landing thing ... and the helicopters on Mars thing...

The vast majority of barnyard animals believe all of these massive lies...

One can rip them apart (as I have done) and show this to the barnyard animals... but they will insist that I am a lunatic...

This is truly surreal... Twilight Zone stuff... it makes Black Mirror writers look like amateurs...

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

this is why you don't explain these things to your cat or your dog. They don't understand it. Same with braindead people. And there are quite a few of them.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

billions of them....

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Despite your excellent demonstration of how there is no such thing as AI... the barnyard animals will insist... cuz bbccnn...

I have insulted the nail gun by comparing it to a bot ... but the nail gun does not claim to be intelligent... so it does not register the insult... of course neither does the bot...

Imagine telling an actual customer service person to fuck off ... and that you were going to fuck their mother.... they'd probably report you to the police...

That's why I only say that to the spammers who are in China and India... it does work as I get a lot less calls....

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

years ago I tried to E-file my taxes and ran into a similar problem. the darn thing wanted to know all kind of stuff I don't even have (mortgage, car loan etc) and refused to go to next screen. That was it. I handed the problem out and pay someone to do the aggravating thing for me ! I like that rat !

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Inverted Reality's avatar

They get away with calling it Artificial 'Intelligence' because most people view intelligence as being book smart.

Ingest -> regurgitate.

Critical thinking is at an all-time low, we are slowly devolving.

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JavaKinetic's avatar

Intelligence it is not. What it is, is an excellent pattern recognizer, and then able to align information against it in a way that it becomes useful.

People are excellent pattern recognizers... but, we can only see a tiny bit of information at once.

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Inverted Reality's avatar

How do they call it? Trash in, trash out? If the information is trash and critical thinking skills are low, the recognized patterns are also trash. That is the core of the problems with society today; almost everything the majority knows, all the patterns they recognize are based on lies.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

indeed ! and there are lots of frustrated customers out there. You hardly ever get to speak to a person anymore - have to listen for half an hour to a tape, and then have to hang up because your problem is not listed and there is no person available ! Death to the bots !

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Paul's avatar

Hear hear. I have long maintained that AI is bullshit, another psyop. They've successfully brainwashed the farm animals to believe that AI is superior to the human brain and will become 'sentient' and enslave us.

I mean it's a flipping masterstroke by those running the show if you think about it.

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Withnail's avatar

Well yes. We need to divert people from the real problem.

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Gas Axe's avatar

Eddy we have bigger problems on our hands.

The clots are serious man.

Half my nieghours are dead now.

My friend calls me up this morning with my 1st sip of coffee to say our friends wife died. He asks me why.

I say well shit happens Bro.

He is all jabbed up. It would be fine cruelty to stomp the truth bomb .

You say AI doesn't exist

I say the devil is running wild now!

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Fast Eddy's avatar

How is that a problem --- unless of course one has been injected with the Death Shots....

I am still waiting for my phone to ring and have a Vaxxer apologize and tell me I was right all along...

Until that happens -- fuck them ... I will experience a little bit of SCHAD every time one of them drops https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/indulge-in-schadenfreude-schad

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Gas Axe's avatar

I have people that said you guys were right. Sorry for doubting you.

Wow did we ever fk up. My heart is now trashed. I should have listened.

There was something very wrong with those injections.

My best friend was mandated to take it.

He knew it was bad. We spent hours and many beers weighing the situation he was put in.

He was forced to rolled the dice.

38 years serving and protecting or lose the pension he was so close to getting.

He was the lab rabbit we joked.

He is dead. He lost that crap shoot.

Many we know now stand on the table yelling don't take anymore. They admit they want us dead. They fear they are walking time bombs.

The majority of the inoculated understand there was something bad in the 💉 and swear at the assholes that come to the door offering them boosters. I know a goul that injects them and he told me that he isn't very popular anymore. Old ladies swear and curse him when he shows up at the door.

I still leave the house. I go for beers in town with the mRNA Victims.

90% of my community took the free unsafe ineffective injections.

I like many of these people. I don't want to see them go for dirt naps.

Shedding might exist Eddy.

Replicon they say is real thing.

Don't think just because we were smart enough to avoid this shit that we are out of the cull.

If we do survive, don't you think they will look for another way to kill us off?

My streets are flooded with CHEAP heavy drugs. Cocaine is $10 a gram right off the block.

Tranq and fent now on my streets.

#1 most popular is the TUSI according to my son.

The booze is all Chinese cloned methanol. I watched the wife and her girlfriend puke up the $80 bottle of tequila they think is premium shit. My Bros at the clubhouse swore off the JD after me yelling that is chino clone boys. You shouldn't have a hang over that last 4 days.

The corner stores sell a $2 mickey that make people go gin blind or kills them dead on the park bench.

This is coming at us on many fronts.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

My Pure Blood wife participated in a few protests against the Ardern Mandates... she did not give fucks about those who wanted to poison themselves... she was supporting those who were forced to make a very difficult decision - do I lose my job, house etc... or do I inject something that I do not need and that has not existed long enough to be properly tested.

Before taking to the streets the organizer warned - stay with the group - always stay with the group - there is safety in numbers.

She returned somewhat shaken after one of these protests --- they endured heavy abuse -- including being called morons and worse.... without a doubt some of these protestors would have liked to kill the protestors... without a doubt.

In fact when I attended the Wellington mass protests I was attacked... I will drop the details of this in an upcoming article...

Those who were coerced with threats -- I have huge empathy for them ... but those brainless imbeciles who wanted to burn me at the stake...

Fuck every last one of them ... this is the one time in life where the morons who do this https://youtu.be/zsbFfLx9gZw get paid back...

Suffer motherfuckers ... suffer and die

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Gas Axe's avatar

Eddy I was there also.

Standing in the park yelling at old men and telling them to grow a new set of balls as I grabbed the crotch in my jean

They thought I was unhinged.

I wrote of guys o have known for 40 years because they were total bitches and cowards.

They are not invited for beer and pork ribs off the BBQ ever again.

Seeing as we are looking at this and you are interested and responding. I worked Indonesia East Asia 2002-2005 SARS pandemic. Man we had the time of our lives. Let go to kL this weekend. Hey man Singapore is 75 bucks round trip and 5 star room cheap!

It was a fucking flu. I had 3500 men on my site.

We got sick we recovered.

No one died.

We did get the shits from eating the odd dog with peanut butter sauce.

So I have a sweet spot for watching the sunsets near my home.

March 2020 the cops would show up and we locked horns hard. Go home fk you. Go home take a shower. Fk you pig. You work for me as public servents. Don't play my keeper or I will have your suspension or fired.

They are armed and so am I.

It caused other to have PTSD that were witness.

Not me I been abused my whole life. I got thick fuckin skin.

Eddy I'm not a religious type. But I did learn forgiveness. I honestly looked to god to please step on with a devine miracle. I'm still waiting.

People are fkn stupid. I am a total knuckle dragger man like ugly cave man but I figured this shit out.

I notice you like being vulgar.

It's an art form. An incredible expression.

Use multiple languages to insult them.

Don't turn into that bitch here on substack Sash lava mi platos bitch though or I will come here and fkn drag you through the mud every day with coffee.

You have to let go of that anger.

Most of them figured out it was toxic and the totally fkt up. No one apologizes no one says I fkt up a d made a mistake. Seriously. No one!

There are still a couple cops I have not forgotten or forgiven. They are going to have to blow lots of smoke up my ass.

My logging partner and only best living friend is totally forgiven.

He repents for being a total chicken shit coward.

He is ashamed in fact.

Heart trashed a drives a taxi because he can't walk 2 city blocks. Can't work in the jungle. Lost his jam.

Built like a brick shit house got no jam.

I dropped in here because I am sick of the diversions and bull shit.

Focus on wtf is really happening Eddy.

I am your critic or your troll. Maybe a shill.

Actually I'm just a fkn old man pissed the hell off at this trash fire!

Rant over.

Going for 🍺 #2.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I am not angry ... in fact just the opposite... I am quite happy.... I am enjoying this outcome ... SCHAD is not anger... it is catharsis... it is pure joy https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/indulge-in-schadenfreude-schad/

It's kinda like this ... long before Covid one might suggest to a barnyard animal that we have not been to the moon cuz we cannot survive the Van Allen Belts... the standard reaction is for them to heap scorn and ridicule on anyone suggesting that.... but I can prove it... piss off not interested... crawl back under a rock and jerk off to your conspiracy theories... I have no interest in looking at your rubbish....

How does one feel when confronted with this ...this... lack of curiousity ... this level of ignorance and stupidity... frustrated? ... belittled?

Covid and the Vaccines are that on steroids... nobody wanted to kill me for suggesting landing on the moon was impossible ... they just thought I was an idiot...

And they could go through their lives believing we've been to the moon ... that helicopters can fly on Mars... etc etc etc... believing whatever bbccnn tells them...

But with the vaccines... this time is different... now they are dying .. now they are suffering ... because they are stupid....

This is like the bully getting bashed in the back of the head with a shovel....

Should one feel sorry for the bully -- oh the poor bully - he's just stupid and mean... he doesn't deserve this...

Nah... nobody feels that ... especially those who were bullied... they feel SCHAD... not anger... SCHAD.... tinged with a bit of revenge...

The endorphins surge when I read about someone who bullied those who refused the Vaxx or who mocked those who chose no... has been injured or killed...

It's a natural high... and those highs... are the best highs.

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Withnail's avatar

We are all going for a dirt nap soon apart from the most vicious, ruthless killers among us. The only survivors of the collapse will wade knee deep through the blood of their victims to reach the new, shitty world they will inhabit.

Forget the vaccine, it doesn't matter. Those people are better off dead.

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Gas Axe's avatar

Yah the reality of it sucks!

You make it sound like mad max.

I see wolves feeding on the sheep.

They already are in fact.

Some of my sons buddies are 20 year old sicarios jacked up on blow. Absolutely no empathy and kill for $40 USD.

They are some messed up young men. Trained on a PS3 GTO game.

They roll into town it looks like a fox is loose in the hen house.

It's rather funny to watch everyone scatter in terror. I stand there with my 🍺 in hand and think, wow they all owe someone or have done something wrong.

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Withnail's avatar

It's going to be horrific.

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Gas Axe's avatar

I have been watching it fall apart for years now.

I kick back with a cold beer in the evenings after work and observe.

At some point I expect everyone to riot like Venezuela.

It never does do much except let guys blow off steam. Pit officers against the citizens they swore to serve and protect. Been there done that.

In the end they are still sifting through garbage and eating dogs or anything they can as a protein source.

Cash is as good as asswipe there.

Venezuela was test run I often think. Toss in some SADS and thin the heard well they are at it.

This is demolition and the silver spoon fed snots think they will build back better after it's all over with a army of robots.

I sure don't expect some mRNA miracle cure for my cancer. They told me yesterday, I need to take injections for the dangerous mosquitos. If you don't take it you can spread this deadly disease. This is now mandatory! You must take it!

Where have I heard that line before?

It will be the same as before. GFYS!

It's a slow burning trash fire and everyone is being distracted with the BS narratives.

It's constant and absolutely ridiculous.

Trump the show host has returned to dazzle us with his side kick Elon the retarded billionaire genius.

Now seriously. All cause mortality is up 335% were I am and holding steady ATM. 80-100 people die each day now. Hardly noticed unless it's someone you know.

Funeral home biz is now offering 2x1 cremation deals. No joke.

I don't think they have a switch they can pull and everyone just hits the dirt and make is wade through bodies knee high.

If that's the case burro will be dead so I get his backhoes.

Shut the grid down would start Armageddon but I think the changed the cyber pandemic idea. All the prep for nothing.

They want us to bury one another so they don't have to get their soft pink hands dirty.

If you haven't noticed it's going rather well and we clean up the corpses and don't say jack shit. Oh that 14 year old girl died running around playing soccer but it's forgotten in a day or 2 because some other distraction comes along.

Don't hold your breath on Armageddon.

This is a coordinate slow cull IMO.

The trick is figure out how to avoid the slaughter house.

A high IQ is not going to save you. The guys I looked up to as being highly intelligent lined up for the miracle mRNA therapy. Dude you have a PhD in chemical engineering. You didn't question it? WTF?

Survival skills might if you figure out who is trying to kill you.

Lunch break is over.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

In mad max they still had diesel to power their rigs... not sure where they got it from ... or the food etc...

When collapse comes it will be horrific...

https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/financial-system-supply-chain-cross

This is a very important video https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/what-happens-when-the-power-goes

Imagine a situation like that -- but global in nature -- no location would be spared....

Then imagine what happens if this situation were to persist for a few weeks --- then imagine what happens if this situation became permanent...

No power... no food... no clean water... no medical care... no police or military... no government....

Anyone with food will be targeted https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/the-utter-futility-of-doomsday-prepping

Women will be gang raped... murder will be like having a cup of coffee for many (there will be no coffee...)

I reckon the worst of it will be the cannibalism... there will be no food... but for a short period there will be meat...

First they will kill and eat every barnyard animal... every pet...

Then they will eat other humans... it's happened before many times during periods of starvation ...

There will be no Oxfam ... there will be nothing....

This is what the Vaccines are all about -- nobody wants that sort of outcome ... https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/the-ultimate-extinction-plan-uep

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Gas Axe's avatar

I just saw this now back with #2 brew.

Eddy there are wolves and sheep in this world.

If it all falls into chaos let it be. I voiced my opinion. Slow burn. They don't want to get dirty

If it goes Armageddon well I have lots of rounds unlike many of you and will be that MF ripping the siding off the Chinese grocery stores so my neighbors and I can get the ass gaskets and loot the fkrs.

Pure blood wife. Woooh she hasn't gone to a dentist I the last 5 years take. A tetanus shot.

Pure blood BS.

You sound fkn stupid.

The movies have everyone wound up for the zombie apocalypse.

Yah naw. We will just slowly bury the dead for a decade or 2. Prepare to suffer man. I talked to my OLD mother today on the other side of the world.

Might be the last time. If I get a txt or Vm next week great. She took the 🌭 Injections and refused to listen. Poor old girl has prions now.

I can still f1gu43 out her writing even though it some messed up code.

Now I say a little prayer some mornings.

Please God unleash a CME that will fry this global electrical system the ashes.plrase burn it to the ground. I really want to live under candle light again.

I'm still waiting. He hasn't pulled the trigger or heard me.

Solar max and nada.

All hype and bullshit.

I actuall question believe your comments.

Fear mongers is the game. Should I be afraid naw.

As for AI in your article.

Who made the mRNA therapy coctel?

If it was a human tell me who it was.

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JavaKinetic's avatar

.... yet

And it may never exist. But, it will be able to follow accounting rules, compile legal texts, generate software solutions, and be used as a battering ram against anyone who is providing a service with actual people.

It just woke up, it's on track to become 1000x as powerful every two years or so. Its deflationary, its not suddenly coming to an end. We will have to live with it, and it won't be pleasant for most of us.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Consider how powerful a nail gun is... compared to a hammer....

Or better still .. a skill saw... vs a handsaw...

Or a calculator vs an abacus ...

Or a google search vs a person trying to research in a library ...

I agree - AI will never exist (bot applications prove that)... but it does not mean the tool should be dismissed as irrelevant...

Rather I would suggest renaming it... using a moniker that does not include the word intelligence

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JavaKinetic's avatar

It's more like a Blunt Force Password Cracker. If the context of the effort is determined, then it might be able to formulate short cuts based on information around the person who created the password in the first place, so long as a wider read of history can be performed.

AI has now beat humans at all games, including Go many years ago now. It may not be intelligence, but its doing something we simply cannot do, which is test all possibilities on board in much faster than real time.

This is where the Call Centre staff will be replaced... eventually. The number of conversations are always similar or the same to many others, so once training on 100,000 or so conversations occurs, you can bet that a question will have the same context as many other questions.

For now, the system you used sounds green. It really should have moved the call to a person once there were no affirmative statements being made by the human caller.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Just like I was supposed to be able to print a bicycle by now using a 3D printer?

There is zero chance of this happening ... we will soon be extinct

Conventional oil production peaked nearly 20 years ago, we have been desperately cannibalizing nuclear war heads to fuel reactors, and shale oil production is now declining. Renewable energy is nothing more than a mirage of hopium.

The fourth horseman of the apocalypse is now mounted - natural gas production is contracting.

https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/natural-gas-production-is-contracting

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Byron Allen Black's avatar

...cannibalizing nuclear warheads into fuel for power generation reactors... is so poignant. Talk about "swords into plowshares".

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Fast Eddy's avatar

It's hard for me to engage in a discussion of 'the future'... when we are keeping nuclear power plants fueled by dismantling missiles....

It's even more desperate than steaming oil out of sand

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Withnail's avatar

We won't need either call centres or AI agents in the future.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

near future

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Withnail's avatar

I'm more concerned with the unpleasantness of being beaten to death with clubs or dismembered with machetes for the sake of a couple of tins of beans in my cupboard. I don't think computer programs are really in that league.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

It would suck to be forced to watch violent men gang rape your family ... then kill and eat them....

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JavaKinetic's avatar

I think everyone should be giving that some thought right now. Being in Canada, with 25% increases in prices coming very quickly due to the tariffs, I imagine there are going to be a lot of people thinking about tins of beans very soon.

But, if AGI becomes capable, then I give it a 50/50 that its owners decide to just shut off everything... and let localism sort em out.

Even if we don't get that far... AI becomes a superb hacking and SaaS reproduction tool. It might not even require AGI to be so disruptive that our food chain snaps.

Here is a good overview on AI/AGI by Nate Hagens... in with the Oil Barrel crowd including Tverberg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh6iuXmJ6uM

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Withnail's avatar

But, if AGI becomes capable, then I give it a 50/50 that its owners decide to just shut off everything

There won't be any elites or owners once the system breaks down and you can forget about 'AGI', it's a fantasy. Not that it would make any difference to anything anyway.

The economy is not about computers. It never has been.

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cg's avatar

You shrink the browser scale and font size until the form elements you need come into the device viewport.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Gosh ... I wonder why the bot didn't provide these instructions ... oh right ... the bot cannot think... and nobody programmed it to respond with this. :)

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Paul Downey's avatar

And so AI can perform a quadrillion calculations a second. Set it to work for a year on the subject of the recent medical emergency, and it can only ever parrot the total tsunami of complete nonsense which constituents the psyop we have all come to know and love.

They are up to their old tricks.

It is just another piss-take.

They are all having the time of their lives inventing more and more stuff to insult our intelligence. Unfortunately many people are succumbing to mental illness as they have to cope with the massive cognitive dissonance they wade through everyday.

It seems to me that we have long passed a critical mass of people totally incapable of any self awareness and completely incapable of seeing that the pied piper they are following is leading them all in the direction of the abattoir.

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Odysseus's avatar

This bot was clearly not an LLM. Not that you will get much intelligence out of an LLM but you will get a more believable simulacrum of intelligence.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I am thinking an LLM would have picked up on fuck you ... fuck your sister... fuck your mother... and responded by offering me a blow job....

However that would not be intelligence cuz it will have taken the word fuck in the wrong context... it was not used to mean I wanted to fuck its mother -- rather I wanted to bash its mother in the back of the head with a shovel.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

What's an LLM?

And where will I see one of these magical things?

Every single bot I have ever encountered is the exact same as the one on NHL TV.

For instance... I am a very heavy user of Audible.com.... I frequently use the function that allows me to return books... for some reason I am unable to return them without contacting customer service (probably cuz I return so many)...

Anyhow... they have a bot... we know each other well... so well that I know that if I type in person I will very quickly get a person... the programmer should realize that the bot never helps solve fuck all... and remove the bot from the site altogether...

But they won't ... you know why?

Cuz if you do not have a customer service bot on a site ... as a company you are not cool... you are not with the times... if you are a public company you might be identified as having missed the AI bought by a pimple-faced ANAL-yst...

And that will impact your share price...

So don't expect reason to win the day... and don't expect the bots to ever solve a problem

They cannot - it is NOT possible for a machine... to think.. It just isn't

Just like it is not possible to survive flight through the Van Allen belts ... or fly a helicopter in the 0 atmosphere of Mars.

Yes I know bbccnn are filled with stories of how AI is taking over the world and we need to be careful or it will enslave us... right along side the stories of Global Warming and Safe and Effective Vaccines....

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Withnail's avatar

You can download and install your own LLM that can be used offline here:

https://ollama.com/library/deepseek-r1

Install ollama first, then go to your C: drive, open a command prompt and choose one of the models. If you're on a laptop I'd suggest the smallest one, so just copy and paste this and type enter.

ollama run deepseek-r1:1.5b

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Can an LLM solve a Captcha?

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Withnail's avatar

Probably. To do things like that you have to link it to an interface for searching the web etc. I'm just trying to do that now.

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Joe Doe's avatar

There was never a problem, no matter how purposeless, that a "good" code monkey felt is not worth solving.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

If it was never a problem then why does Captcha exist... if it is so easy to circumvent then the bad guys looking to launch malicious attacks on web sites... would use AI to defeat it.

At least this is what Spock would say... cuz he is logical

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Withnail's avatar

I'm not good, I'm completely clueless.

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Joe Doe's avatar

Why should one do that?

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Withnail's avatar

Are you mentally defective or just unable to read? Eddy asked where he could find an LLM, I told him.

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Joe Doe's avatar

The only ones mentally defective are those interacting with LLMs. You already proved you are one when you provided those instructions. C drive... Did you ever hear of Unix based operation systems? Or did a smart LLM produced those instructions for you? Garbage in, garbage out.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

I would imagine the LLM is a big thing in the world of premium sex dolls.... losers like being told they are handsome :)

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Withnail's avatar

Dude, I'm not sitting here chatting to it like some sort of loser, I know what it is. I'm just learning how to do stuff on the computer because why not.

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Odysseus's avatar

Large Language Models. They are essentially a distillation of the English language usage as captured by its training set. You start with your prompt. Based on the words in your prompt, there is statistically a word that is most likely to follow your prompt. Your prompt and this word can be used to find the next word. And so on and so forth. Simple, yet effective because at the end of the day humans have used languages in limited ways. Add some pre-processing and post-processing and you get a very believable conversationalist with answers that most of time are true. And always confident. It just doesn’t know it is lying.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Right ... but it still would not be able to sort out a problem.

Seeking Arrangement .com was using this sort of thing ... and they got busted... apparently 99% of the users are men ... and most of the 1% are whores ... almost zero women looking for affairs (a woman looking for an affair just has to walk into a bar... no need to fuck around with a website)

So what they did was use these LLMs... on a superficial level they could mimic a human however it is my understanding that they would initiate with a punter... then soon disappear because as conversations went beyond superficial they were exposed as bots...

The funny thing is that this site still exists https://www.seeking.com/ Despite getting slammed for scamming users... go figure...

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Richard Seager's avatar

The best thing about AI is that the longer you leave it in the wild the dumber it gets

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Richard Seager's avatar

Also AI is one big upper middle class prude.

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Paul Downey's avatar

The question for me is can a LLM distinguish between social reality and the underlying physical reality?

99.9% of folk know that the economy runs on money. That constituents social reality 'cos it is what everyone is agreed upon.

0.1% have thought about it and realised that the economy, in fact, runs on energy.

And then there are those really clever nerds, like me, who say nope, it in fact runs on a very special sort of energy called exergy.

Even at a quadrillion calculations a second I suspect that a LLM would never ever penetrate the underlying physical reality of our horrendous situation.

And of course that is the whole point behind this latest psyop as you wouldn't want the masses talking about exergy, ffs.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Get this ... once upon a time ... I would gather with some retired university professors on Sundays for lunch ... I would have been early 40's... there was one other attendee who was a former top exec in the insurance industry .. he was not a flaky left winger like the profs... but like most circus animals he was a tech worshipper and yearned to suck Elon's dick...

Anyhow... I recall the energy depletion issue being discussed... and trying to explain to one of the profs this issue of energy return ... he couldn't grasp the fact that investing 1 barrel to produce 100 barrels was any different than a 10:1 ratio ... try as I might to explain that we had 99 free barrels to build civilization and now we had maybe 9 he disagreed...

So I says --- what if it got to the point where it took one barrel to produce one barrel ie. no free barrels at all ... would we still extract oil?

Yes of course he said.

I am gonna revise George Carlin's take on this ....

Think of how stupid the smartest person is, and realize that almost all of them are stupider than that.

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Withnail's avatar

In the UK nobody understands that the coal ran out. I explain it to them and they are incapable of grasping the idea. They think the mines were closed because we care about the planet; I don't know how that would account for all the mines that were closed in the 1800s.

They'll discover reality and the true nature of humans when the killing starts. I hope at least the old people are euthanised, if that's their choice, before that gets going.

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World Observerer's avatar

are humans really that stupid? in the past when you cut all the trees, you can see the effect it had on not being able to heat up for winter. i guess cause and effect is too difficult for humans to grasp. did you say we used up all the coal and they still thought they stopped using resources to save the planet lol.

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Withnail's avatar

did you say we used up all the coal and they still thought they stopped using resources to save the planet lol.

They don't understand what a mine is. They think it's like a factory, it produces coal for as long as you want it to. They think we could just reopen all the mines if we chose.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

This is quite the book -- someone recommended it here a few weeks ago

https://www.audible.com/pd/A-Forest-Journey-Audiobook/B0BMGTXW56

It details how we nearly completely denuded Europe to fuel progress... then turned to fossil fuels...

Starving locusts have nothing on humans in terms of rapaciousness...

This book reinforces my misanthropic views... the only good human is a dead human

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Withnail's avatar

It's the only history book you need. History about anything other than trees is irrelevant bullshit.

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Paul Downey's avatar

The trick is to hang out with really smart people, say nothing, and listen, listen, listen. I spent my 20s doing just that. I can well remember when Nixon closed the gold window someone saying that it would all end in tears. He went on to create a vivid picture of what "tears" might look like, a picture not too dissimilar from exactly what is happening today

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Fast Eddy's avatar

The www is a very powerful tool.... if used properly one can accelerate the learning curve....

Couple that with embracing being wrong and one can super charge one's awareness...

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Withnail's avatar

99.9% of folk know that the economy runs on money.

That's right. The news is always about the monopoly tokens we use to represent the actual economy - if we just juggle interest rates and taxes, hand out some more tokens or cut off some undeserving folks' tokens that should solve the problem. Obviously none of that really does anything.

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Steve  Bull's avatar

You didn’t miss much of a game. The Leafs seemed pretty uninspired in their play.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Was able to get it to feed on NHL66.ir... a very poor effort... the only Leaf who was buzzing was Nick Robertson...

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Given the odds... this has to be orchestrated https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/watch-dramatic-footage-show-private-jet-crashing-northeast-philadelphia

It certainly contributes to the anxiety -- along with the removal of censorship of vax injury commentary....

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Fast Eddy's avatar

AI Is a Digital Parrot: Word-Traps, False Logic and the Illusion of Intelligence

https://charleshughsmith.substack.com/p/ai-is-a-digital-parrot-word-traps

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Withnail's avatar

Whoever wins the imaginary 'AI race' will have a lot of poor people who got fired from their jobs and the world's worst customer service.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

Or eventually enough people will tell the bot to fuck it's mother ... and the bots will be killed off... and replaced by lost cost CS fellas in India and the Philippines

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